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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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Unfastened Belts 1/13/2021 8:23 PM
but not like you are god but they felt everyone was just manifestation of the same thing and you could see it as god but it's just a word
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It's funny how everyone has the same transcendent spiritual insight
8:25 PM
Through whatever means and in whatever wording
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Deleted User 1/13/2021 8:25 PM
so that alter was dissociating a lot with music
8:26 PM
and what i think what was happening was they were disconnecting from what was making them feel separate and just felt one with everything
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Alice
I'm trans, and before I transitioned I had no ability to feel true connections in most contexts or most positive emotions
mtf or ftm
9:50 PM
if you don't mind me asking
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I'm a girl
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so you're taking E?
9:51 PM
if yes I get the emotion thing, everytime I don't keep my E2 in check I'm an emotional mess so I can believe it sparked something for you
11:54 PM
So good
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Marissa!! I was going to watch it right now but that is two hours!!
12:04 AM
You have time for this but not meditating!? 🧐
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 12:10 AM
All his videos are two hours, I always watch them in bits and pieces over the course of a few days
12:10 AM
Right now I watched 15 mins while I ate lunch/dinner
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 12:18 AM
@Lula! | 👻
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Albino Elephant 1/14/2021 12:28 AM
You sure do a lot in your day
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Unfastened Belts
@Lula! | 👻
Lula! | 👻 1/14/2021 1:27 AM
I like to do a whole thing in one bite if my can. Doesn't bother my headmates to do that but it also doesn't seem to work at all for them cause then they don't remember where they left off or what was said last time, lol.
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 1:29 AM
Then you'll have to contend with two hours if you're gonna watch one of his videos XP
1:32 AM
The first 60 - 90 minutes are him monologuing, the last 30 - 60 minutes he answers questions
1:33 AM
Traditional satsang format supposedly for thousands of years
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 2:10 AM
If I had to put "classical" advaita vedanta into one metaphor, it's: You are the screen which witnesses the life experience starring a body/mind subject, spacetime world objects and thoughts.
2:10 AM
@Orhu your thoughts on that concept? (edited)
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on what?
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 2:15 AM
You are the screen which witnesses the life experience starring a body/mind subject, spacetime world objects and thoughts.
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sounds like someone needs some sonder though
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 2:15 AM
What's that
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sonder – n. the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 2:16 AM
I mean that's likely true but you can't know it's true. The only thing you can know is that you're witnessing, and that you exist
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also i think in general thats kinda dumb
2:16 AM
well no marissa
2:16 AM
you can know its true
2:17 AM
dont do this, but if you follow any random person around for a day, you'll see its true
2:17 AM
this is one of those things that is physically provable
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VIXIE | 👻 BOT 1/14/2021 2:19 AM
@Orhu YOU NEVER SAID WHAT THE WARRIORS GAUNTLET IS, how can anyone trust you
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 2:19 AM
It's true when it comes to the circumstantial content of the experience that you witness
2:19 AM
He said warrior's gauntlet = Roger's framework
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i literally did
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VIXIE | 👻 BOT 1/14/2021 2:19 AM
well, fuck that is probably true and I missed it 😂
2:19 AM
or forgot
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VIXIE | 👻 BOT 1/14/2021 2:20 AM
or, anyway. 😬 Awwwwwkward
2:20 AM
thanks!
2:20 AM
carry on!!
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VIXIE | 👻 BOT 1/14/2021 2:23 AM
It's a bit sad that we get too caught up in winning.
Awwww, I missed this from yesterday. 😂 No the best part isn't who wins or loses, it's about the mayhem and chaos we make along the way!!
2:23 AM
@Unfastened Belts , he's all yours again, sorry for the interruption
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 2:23 AM
lol
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Is there like
2:32 AM
Nevermind
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Lula! | 👻 1/14/2021 7:38 AM
Hmm?
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido] BOT 1/14/2021 1:17 PM
@Orhu - jump i must say it's very concerning orhu is obsessed about "winning a debate" with marissa rather than focusing on trying to figure out who is right, or just have a normal conversation debating skills are only good if you are talking about something you are an expert in; if you develop debating skills without learning what is right or wrong or how you even figure out what is true or false, you risk developing an illusion of being always right the reason it's very concerning is because it goes more into the territory of eristic rather than actually debating a topic with genuine intentions anyway, talking about debate is useless without talking which rules you want to apply for the debate. without formal rules, it's just an argument
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido] BOT 1/14/2021 1:44 PM
by eristic i mean this, schopenhauer wrote a really good book about it https://www.britannica.com/topic/eristic Eristic, (from Greek eristikos, “fond of wrangling”), argumentation that makes successful disputation an end in itself rather than a means of approaching truth. Such argumentation reduces philosophical inquiry to a rhetorical exercise. Eristic argument is closely associated with the Sophists and was ridiculed by Plato in his dialogue Euthydemus. The term is often used more broadly to characterize arguments that rely on subtle but specious forms of reasoning.
Eristic, (from Greek eristikos, “fond of wrangling”), argumentation that makes successful disputation an end in itself rather than a means of approaching truth. Such argumentation reduces philosophical inquiry to a rhetorical exercise. Eristic argument is closely associated with the Sophists and
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Ah, shit. I forgot to get my permission slip signed to have fun. My mistake, I'll remember to do that next time.
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Unfastened Belts 1/14/2021 5:01 PM
Haha I totally feel like arguing for the fun of it is just as valid
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido] BOT 1/14/2021 5:02 PM
eristic, not even once!
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Also theres nothing objectively wrong with eristic debate
5:05 PM
So
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I think your concern is misplaced
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido] BOT 1/14/2021 5:06 PM
of course not, people just might not be willing to talk to you or find it annoying
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido]឵ BOT 1/14/2021 5:12 PM
so this is where my concern is coming from
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I only do it with marissa and she's fine with it
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Sama 🌺 [Kaleido]឵ BOT 1/14/2021 5:21 PM
i'm not sure, i always see it leaking here, it's something someone using eristic would say
5:21 PM
umm remove the "always" lol
5:22 PM
well anyway, just something to keep in mind
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Unfastened Belts 1/15/2021 10:08 PM
@Lula! | 👻 Here's one that's only one hour instead of two ;P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol_1mbMjaLU (edited)
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Unfastened Belts 1/15/2021 10:17 PM
You can skip to 10:00 anyway
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😂 K Marissa, I will try.
10:38 PM
Wow. Well that's not me Ranger! 😂 But their name sounds like it could be lol.
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A long kiss goodnight 1/15/2021 10:39 PM
Ghost kid has been around for awhile, they're known for their short question posts.
10:41 PM
I don't think magical servitors are a psychic thing, and I'm not sure if parapsychology practices anything from Tibetan Buddhism.
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Yo dawg how about soulbounding some egregores like Pepe Kek (or memes or whatever there are)
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/16/2021 5:08 PM
pretty sure that thing is dead
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What thing? Soulbonding?
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/16/2021 5:08 PM
or at least, in no way relates to occult practice
5:08 PM
no the pepe kek bs
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Oh idk what that even is, I don’t think it’s relevant. They are basically just acting about deities in general
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Have you seen the philosophy of chaos magic? This actually isn't too abnormal for it. they're all about the worship of absolutely absurd and things. Including but not limited to Donald duck (edited)
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/16/2021 5:12 PM
deity work isn't relevant to those that aren't involved in paganism/magick/occultism, and even if its a genuine interest just for the sake of knowledge I'm not comfortable explaining it to a community that invalidates such experiences. Also worship is a strong term.
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Personality I am atheist and do not believe in any god however I do believe that anything can be viewed as a ‘god’ if the obsession of that thing or person is strong enough. Basically because constantly thinking about something like that is going to make a tulpa or at least something alike from it
5:15 PM
But I’m sure we’ve had this conversation many times over
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/16/2021 5:16 PM
I havent
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But haven’t you just said you don’t want to be involved in a discussion about it anyway?
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/16/2021 5:18 PM
I wasn't saying in any way I was going to talk about it
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I just said I haven't had the conversation here
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I don’t think people’s opinions will change much just because it’s in here
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/16/2021 5:19 PM
I dont care? already said i wasnt gonna talk about it
5:20 PM
anyways
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You said you don’t want to talk about it, then said you did now saying you don’t again 🤦 (edited)
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/16/2021 5:21 PM
literally never said i did
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I'm not comfortable explaining it to a community that invalidates such experiences. I wasn't saying in any way I was going to talk about it I dont care? already said i wasnt gonna talk about it
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/16/2021 5:22 PM
yeah, all of that is basically a "no"
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You are confusing as hell and annoying. I unblocked this channel because I thought soulbonding might be discussed not religion
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A Gaggle of Giggles 1/16/2021 5:24 PM
not my problem dude, I literally only responded to anon to clarify that whatever pepe kek is, it is not a deity
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I get that this conversation might be frustrating, but please try not to be insulting people here.
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absurdity is fun
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Unfastened Belts 1/16/2021 5:28 PM
So Rusty, whatcha know about soulbonding?
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